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Savi
07-11-2003, 01:00 PM
HFY has now been in the public awareness for about 4-5 years. If I may share with you what has attracted me to the system, I would have to say that the HFY system as a whole opened up so many doors and answered so many questions that I myself would probably have NEVER asked in the first place!

Literally every posture AND motion is driven by a principle, a concept, and a theory. On top of that, it is all bounded by a concrete formula (resulting from a scientific approach to understanding combat). Wow! I asked myself how anything like this could be possible. At one point it seemed too extreme or even rediculous! But once I began to train it, follow its logic flow, understand the systematic approach, I began to see it bit by bit, and the connections began to reveal itself. From body mechanics, to technical knowledge, to skill challenging it was all completely consistent with everything else in the system to a T. This was much more valueable and definitely more intriguing that what I have learned before.

After a time I began to understand that there are actually two types of self defense/combat. Folk (civilian) and military. HFY I think, would fall into the category of military combat. The reasons I can see for this are two fold:

1) a militaric approach to combat takes into consideration the use of resource, tactical and strategic arrays (formations) optimal to the user, and seeks out the most efficient way to get the job with factors of risk management taken into extreme account.

2) according to HFY lore and traditions, it is a byproduct of the culmination of both Chan Monk and Ming (Dynasty) military officers both existing for a common goal. This commonality was that of understanding reality through two things:

a) the harmony/balance of Time, Space, and Energy in relation to the human body and its relationship to the universe (Chan), and

b) the above point through the reality of life and death, taking into considerations matters of efficiency (Military)

They accomplished this by developing a combat system which embodies both A and B, hence HFYWCK. The system is as intricate in areas of Combat as it is in Health as well as Philosophy. All these 3 factors are - as I understand and have experienced thus far - entirely consistent and complimentary to each other. So, for me I can identify and appreciate HFY as a true gem of the Southern Shaolin Temple.

I would like to invite others to share their opinions/understanding as well. Thank you.

Cang Long
07-12-2003, 03:12 PM
Excellent post Savi!

I agree with your point that HFY not only ask the questions we ourselves might not think to ask but it then even has the odacity to answer them and even remain consistant witht those answers, you gotta love it but first and foremost you must experience it.

When you understand Tao or in the process as we are you can better understand the answer to the question why would a bunch of monks create a fighting science. As I stated on the yin yang thread the answer I believe is, being in a state of weng kiu does not mean you are an excellent fighter but that you have an excellent understanding of Tao. That is not only the answer to that particular question but all questions. Answers can be consider Yin and Questions can be consider Yang both of which exist in the tao. As individuals we need to reach into the tao grab bag with some elemental energies and start grabbing extracting and matching the correct questions with the correct answers.

So what inetrest me most is the search for answers as well as the answers themselves. I've been doing that my entire life and HFY just seems to be another path just closer to saan kiu than most I have traveled.... See ya at the crossroad of weng kiu Blvd and saan kiu Rd.

Sihing68
07-14-2003, 10:56 PM
Savi and Tony,

Personally, in short, what keeps my interest and focus in the HFYWCK, is the fact that how we train is how we are going to combat. There are no wasted moves in the forms (SNT, CK, BJ). Every move can be explained, demonstrated, and efficiently/effectively used either in forms/sparing/san sau exercises/KS/CS or maybe just a simple body structure testing.

Hungman
07-14-2003, 11:19 PM
Hung Fa Yi WCK is for the wise guys...Oooop!:bazooka: :D

Hungman
07-15-2003, 10:01 PM
The diamond I find with HFY wing chun is it draws out very intelligent people.

Savi
07-17-2003, 12:14 AM
Originally posted by Hungman
The diamond I find with HFY wing chun is it draws out very intelligent people.
Hungman,
When did you come across the HFY?

Hungman
07-17-2003, 02:29 PM
Savi,

About ten years ago I joined GM Garrett Gee's kung fu class at the university of Golden Gate in San Francisco. Before that I was a student of Chris Chan at the USWingchun academy.

Savi
07-17-2003, 08:14 PM
Originally posted by Hungman
Savi,

About ten years ago I joined GM Garrett Gee's kung fu class at the university of Golden Gate in San Francisco. Before that I was a student of Chris Chan at the USWingchun academy.
You are QUITE fortunate to have known and studied under Master Gee for so long! What were you studying under Master Gee at that time? Was it HFY? And if so, how has your perception changed since then to now? Forgive me if I am being too nosey...

Hungman
07-18-2003, 05:19 PM
The wonderful thing about learning HFY directly under GM Garrett Gee is that it allowed you rexamine what you do. Prepare to those KiuSao/ChiSao/MookJong into kung fu fighting. The more you experience and learn, the more you really get to see the logic and relationships within the HFY system.

Savi
07-18-2003, 05:45 PM
I can definitely relate to what you are saying Hungman! My past visit to the VTM (as an example) opened a connection in BLKS and the first section of the wooden dummy. It truly is quite amazing. Also the Kiu Sau/Chi Sau relationship is fundamentally clear and logical from every aspect (from training to combat and even from a system's standpoint), so far as I have seen.

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