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Op108wc
03-18-2005, 11:20 AM
Mo Ying Da Yeng in HFY means No Shape, Hit Shadow.

Yao Ying Da Ying, or Have Shape Hit Shape.

In HFY we also have the saying... Mind understands, Body knows.

Now, Hendrik is also talking about "Have shape hit shape, no shape, strike impression." Where did Hendrik get these ideas from? Does Mastering Kung Fu ring the bell?

LOL!


http://forum.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=35956

Originally posted by Alex at KFO

Hitting the Shadow

Kung Fu Fighter,

Could you tell us what style WC you study??

Just curious, because as I've told you, Mo Ying Da Yeng in HFY means No Shape, Hit Shadow. It refers to the sweeping/clearing of Fau Kiu Space or blindside/wandering space.... space where you have no true shape or visual focus. With the Kuen Kuit comes many concepts via our long range kiu sau bridging techniques. How to safely create a bridge to an area that you can't really see your opponent, WITHOUT giving him a tool to use against you.

Therefore, you can see how it has another side to it... being Yao Ying Da Ying, or Have Shape Hit Shape. This refers to the other side of the concept. How to bridge when you do have a target to focus on.

It is especially vital against grappling as it keeps distance and time on your side. Keeps your bridging out of their preferred range.

Interesting enough, I noticed that Randy Couture uses very similar stategy in his instructions to his fighters on the UFF TV show in how to avoid takedowns.

In HFY we also have the saying... Mind understands, Body knows. It is about gaining awareness in your hands via our Saam Mo Kiu concept.

Strange to hear Hendrick using such similar terminology these days, considering his past record on the matter.

Hopefully that's an indicator that he'll gain a better understanding of the term shadow one day as well.


Nice thread!

Hungman
03-18-2005, 12:16 PM
Originally posted by Alex


In HFY we also have the saying... Mind understands, Body knows. It is about gaining awareness in your hands via our Saam Mo Kiu concept.


In HFY we have this kune huit...

Yi Sik Sun Hun means Mind understands, Body knows.

JamesHFYofAZ
03-18-2005, 01:31 PM
All information thats let out is and will always be collected, as long as it's interestingly new!
http://www.wingchunkuen.com/what/systems/hungfayee.html Notes: thank robert and john!? for what?
Brouse this site for insight! If I recall correctly, this site is directed by??? Guess whos?:rolleyes:

Op108wc
03-18-2005, 01:58 PM
James & Alex,

What do you think about this charecter Hendrik? And does he know anything about Mo Ying Da Yeng or not (No Shape, Hit Shadow)?


El


Originally posted by ntc

Hendrik:

Lots of questions asked..... what about answering Kung Fu Fighter's question to you:

"Hendrik can you share some of your experiences with us about how you think the kuen kit should be applied and why, with specific examples based on your experiences."

Op108wc
03-18-2005, 01:59 PM
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JamesHFYofAZ
03-18-2005, 02:23 PM
hindrik doesn't understand anything but words of rhymes and allusions he creates is his narrow mind. This is why he can not answer the questions presented, just give answers of allusions.
further, his information is miscued because its all second hand. If he did understand, he would of never argue facts in the beginning.:D

duende
03-18-2005, 05:01 PM
He tried to distort my post into just... "playing defence".

He can not handle the fact that their are other WC practioners more skilled and more knowledgable than himself.

Look at the guys footwork... yet he's preaching about anti-grappling???

Fish out of water. That's the ideom he ought to study.


Already on this thread and on another one, you have posters asking him for real answers to their questions.

Obviously, he didn't learn his lesson the last time he was chased out of KFO.

Cang Long
03-18-2005, 11:46 PM
originally posted by Op108wc
What do you think about this charecter Hendrik? And does he know anything about Mo Ying Da Yeng or not (No Shape, Hit Shadow)? originally posted by hendrik
How close both of them have get to you? and what did you see and strike at? shadow or shape ? ---HS Hendrik post as if he understands the idiom then ask questions which indicate he does not understand the idiom at all.originally posted by hendrik
what do you mean and what have you done by "attack thier center of gravity"? Sometimes it seems as if hendrik doesn't even understand wing chun.

Op108wc
03-20-2005, 10:58 AM
Originally posted by Cang Long
Hendrik post as if he understands the idiom then ask questions which indicate he does not understand the idiom at all. Sometimes it seems as if hendrik doesn't even understand wing chun.

By day the sun shines, by night Hendrik shines, and he shines in mumbo jumbo!

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