Shaolin Wing Chun master

[Op108wc]

Is there a 68 years old senior Shaolin Wing Chun master in here?


Originally posted by Schwarzdragon (KFO)

Traditional versus Modified Wing Chun
I have studied Wing Chun for 3 years. Now, I'm certified to teach it. Before that, I studied Tae Kwon Do for 9 years and Judo for 2 years. I was also trained in hand-to-hand combat during my 10 years as a US Army officer. Never before in my martial arts training have I seen mathmatics used to illustrate a point.

Furthermore, I have a question for you. Are you familiar with the difference between traditional versus modified wing chun? I have studied what I was told was traditional wing chun in the US. My wing chun master told me that many other styles came from the modified wing chun lineage, that excluded the footwork that is needed to avoid the opponent's attack.

Last summer, I was fortunate to train under my Chinese wife's uncle in Indonesia. He lived in a Shaolin monestary from age 4 to 30, when he left to get married. Now, he is 68 years old and has 9 children! Anyway, he is a master of 5 styles of kung fu including wing chun. He easily defeated me at chi sao. He said that my style of wing chun was the modified version and that he practiced the authentic shaolin wing chun. I have many of the training sessions on video tape. Several times, he used me in his seminars as the attacker. I was amazed how such an older gentleman could disable and disarm me without any effort. Even though he spoke no English, I can understand enough bahasa indonesia to know that he joked often about "American kung fu." Mostly, I can understand the universal Cantonese of Wing Chun terminology.

Confucius said, "There is no shame in falling as long as you try to get back up every time you fall."

[sihing]

I love it how these people in foreign countries think they know everything about every North American, like we are all lazy and easily fooled by rubbish and falsehoods, lol. And how North Americans believe everything someone from the country of origin says (not to say this master is false, but just because he is supposedly from Shaolin should he know all??)

James

[Armin]

Hello!

Well, that's an interesting text. Let's read it part by part.

I have studied Wing Chun for 3 years. Now, I'm certified to teach it. Before that, I studied Tae Kwon Do for 9 years and Judo for 2 years. I was also trained in hand-to-hand combat during my 10 years as a US Army officer.
Studied Wing Chun for 3 years. Wow, that's an awesome long period! I'm sure that it'll take longer for me to fully understand the system - maybe I'm not as talented as he is. :(

Never before in my martial arts training have I seen mathmatics used to illustrate a point.
I'm not sure what to make with this. We use lines, points and vectors to illustrate things - and that kind of illustration is used in every WT/VT/WC-school I've ever been. :confused:

Furthermore, I have a question for you. Are you familiar with the difference between traditional versus modified wing chun? I have studied what I was told was traditional wing chun in the US. My wing chun master told me that many other styles came from the modified wing chun lineage, that excluded the footwork that is needed to avoid the opponent's attack.
Well, sorry. I really don't get the point here. What does he want to say? Can someone translate it for me???

Last summer, I was fortunate to train under my Chinese wife's uncle in Indonesia. He lived in a Shaolin monestary from age 4 to 30, when he left to get married. Now, he is 68 years old and has 9 children! Anyway, he is a master of 5 styles of kung fu including wing chun. He easily defeated me at chi sao.
Hopefully he was defeated! Someone playing chi sao for all his life should be very good at it and it should be no problem to handle somebody with only 3 years experience in chi sao.

But take a look at this:
He lived in a Shaolin monestary from age 4 to 30
Are there hundreds of Shaolin monasteries??? I think what he tries to say is, that his new sifu spent some time in a buddhist monatery. Now, that would make more sense, wouldn't it?

An btw: I honestly believe that I could 'produce' more children in 38 years than his sifu. Just give me some more wives and I'll show you!!! :D Would my Kung Fu be much more better than? Is that 'flowing chi'???

To keep it short: this text seems to be made of parts, that don't belong together - and I still miss his answer to question what modified wing chun is. He says, that he knows. So, what is the answer? Ah, yes. You have to come to his school and get his student, than you'll learn. Sad.

@ sihing:

you americans are well-known for being all lazy and easily fooled by rubbish and falsehoods. And one more thing: you belive in what your government says - why shouldn't you believe in everything someone from the country of origin says . :D :D :D

We germans know that very well - damn occupiers! Romains go home!!! :rol:
(You know the Life of Brian, don't you?)


Armin.

[Hungman]

Originally posted by Armin
Hello!

Well, that's an interesting text. Let's read it part by part.


Studied Wing Chun for 3 years. Wow, that's an awesome long period! I'm sure that it'll take longer for me to fully understand the system - maybe I'm not as talented as he is. :(



Hello Armin
You're everywhere, LOL! Imo, there is a good reason to explain this;) and please don't confuse "I'm not as talented as he is. :( " with "A CLOSE CONNECTION TO THE GRANDMASTER" I think you're a very smart fellow in my book.

If someone could learn the whole WT system in less than 46 hours, its because he could afford to pay his way to get it, and he also had a close connection to the grandmaster. Would this make any sense to you? :D


HM

[Armin]

Hello Hungman!

Yes, I have my eyes everywhere - and they are so handsome bright blue eyes!!! :D :D :D

If someone could learn the whole WT system in less than 46 hours, its because he could afford to pay his way to get it, and he also had a close connection to the grandmaster. Would this make any sense to you? :D
Well, I can imagine a relation that close - but only with female students. :eek: ;) And I'm not sure if I could show them 'everything' in 46 hours!!! :cool: :p

But yes of course, I do understand what you want to say. I'm not sure of what to say to such habits.

Let's calculate, 46 hours. When I visited the VTM we trained, hm, well, 5 hours per day, 5 days a week - that's 25 hours. This time will be the same, so again 25 hours. Altogether we'll have spent 50 hours on training in two weeks. Wow! And I still won't 'have' the whole system!

Maybe the price is too low - I have to have a talk with Sifu Meng on this. ;)

Oh yes, Sifu Meng and I, we spent a holiday together, too! He brought me to the Ariplane-museum and drove me home again. Does that count?

It must be the prices!


Armin.