TenTigers
06-22-2004, 10:32 PM
I teach Siu Lum Hung Kuen, and have studied Wing Chun as well.
duende
06-23-2004, 01:51 AM
Welcome Ten Tigers!
I think I recognize your handle from the KFO forum...
I'm curious, what Wing Chun did you study??? I'm not familiar with Siu Lum Hung Kuen.
Care to tell us about it??
Regards
Alex
TenTigers
06-23-2004, 10:11 AM
sure. Siu Lum Hung Kuen encompases Guongdong Hung-Ga,lineage from Wong Fei-Hung, )both Lam Sai-Wing and Tang Fong branches)as well as Village Hung-Kuen. The Wing Chun I studied was from Yip Man's lineage (in various incarnations-first. from Alan Lamb-in his basement (Koo-Sang), then from John Cresscione(Moy-Yat,Lee Moy-Shan.William Cheung),,a friend (Mark,don't recall his last name)(Duncan Leong,Augustine Fong), in one Hung-Ga/Wing Chun school, Robert Chu used to frequently come in and teach seminars and such-that was always a pleasure),John Moy(Moy-Yat), and finally,Alan Lee, who due to time constraints, my studies with him are on hold. His Si-Hing, Duncan Leong comes by his school and gives seminars from time to time,and these two Masters have made Wing Chun for me, a great experience. Although some may dispute it, (mostly other Hung-Ga folks-funny)I for one, see a tremendous kinship between Hung-Ga and Wing Chun. Bottom line is, that although we've debated that issue forever,what people fail to see is that there are so many lineages of WC, that you can'y have such a limited view-(Thanx to the work of people like of Robert Chu and Rene Ritchie, Benny Meng,Andreas Hoffmann, etcm who have opened up their doors and lines of communication) to say that ying and faht separate the two arts is a ridiculous assumption. considering the vastness of the two arts, and the many different ways, even teachers of the same lineage play it. Different strokes.
It's like cult mentality-people will hold on, clutch for dear life what they had when their belief system is challenged, or worse yet, when it is revealed to be not what they thought it was. -my two cents -we don't have to agree
duende
06-23-2004, 11:22 AM
Cool,
I met John Cresscione many years ago at a HFY seminar in Chandler.
I wish more people were as open minded as he was.
About the lineage wars... I'm up for agreeing to disagree as well. The problems I see for certain individuals is that they can only make assumptions about our HFY heritage. Yet they try and bind us up in their history.
I for one have no problem with their tracing their roots to White Crane for instance. But for them to try and include us via pictures and shallow reasoning is not only ignorant, but rather insulting.
Anyways, enough of that.
Alex
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