I would like to know more about the Triangle is used in Hung Fa Yi ?

[Firehawk]

How is the triangle used in Hung Fa Yi Wing Chun such as stance footwork punching and in concept and principle ?

[DavidE]

Triangles .......

I am most familiar with triangles and how they relate to body structures. My sihing Savi has posted on this many times before and he would probably be better at explaining them. If he or someone else doesn't post, I'll send him an e-mail to see if he can make the time to do so. :)

Lemme pass the hat around and see if anyone wants to throw in a few.

-David

[Sihing68]

Firehawk,

From my personal experiences.......

If you are at a neutral (yjkym) stance, in a nut shell, it is a relationship between the shoulder/elbow/center lines that makes up the triangle. Of course, if you are in a forward stance, other factors makes up the triangle, including your footwork. I hope this helps a little.

I'm sure, according to David, Savi can get more involve in this subject in the near future.

[Savi]

Firehawk,

I think that the principles, concepts, and theories behind the 'triangles' are more important and may accurately address your question in depth.

BUT...

I see your question as only addressing the "Space" factor of HFY so I cannot give you a complete answer (one that would address time, space, and energy) to the best of my limited abilities. However, I think I can approach it in this manner....

Think of utilizing the idea of 'triangles' to measure body position in 3 dimensional space. In that sense, I can relate to (on a personal level) the use of triangles as a means to measure proper distribution of our parts in relation to our center as well as our opponent. My lead hand can be measured by an isosolese triangle and my back hand may be gauged by a smaller equilateral triangle. In this sense, structure may become more concrete and consistent when passing on the knowledge from one person to the next.

One example of how HFY addresses the use of triangles is in an article written by Master Benny Meng entitled "Understanding the Wing Chun Punch" which addresses HFY's Triangular Theory (Jiang Dai Lik). It's a very good read and you can find it in the articles section in the galleries link.

Gotta go, hopefully I can elaborate more later...

[Firehawk]

Thanks for the information .

[Savi]

After a very long time to think about this Firehawk, I'd like to share with you one example of several triangles dealing with the Center Line. Keep in mind that the triangle is a reflection of the finger that points to the moon. We are only discussing the finger.

Keep in mind this is how I see it in HFY, and may not reflect how it truly is in the HFY system.

The structure of the self-centerline of the body is guided by a concept of having 3 specific points on one line (vertically). This must be true in all directions as well. If my posture is upright from a front view, then it must also be true from a side view.

How a triangle may be used to help gauge the proper posture of the centerline is by utilizing 2 key points of the body in relation to the centerline itself: the elbow and knee. For example:

If you take a basic forward stance (make sure your feet are outside your shoulder-width) and a basic Jong Sau structure, the leading elbow must be at the same depth as the leading knee in front of the centerline.

If it isn't so, then either:
a) you are standing too high or too low, meaning your feet are too shallow or deep, or...

b) you are leaning too far forward or backward.

This triangle can verify the vertical alignment of your posture from front to back. To verify the centerline posture from left to right can be checked by another triangle. This can also be true for every single technique, posture, stance, and structure used in HFY so far as I know. But again, this only reflects my personal understanding of what I see in HFY. Hope this helps!

An attachment will be forthcoming...

[Savi]

Here is what I was describing to you in the previous post.

[Firehawk]

Great information i find it very interesting.